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keith
Joined: 05 Dec 2010 Posts: 9
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 2:15 am Post subject: |
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Yes, the sentence I have a problem with is "However, in true Microsoft® fashion, information regarding these calls can be obscure and not straightforward." - Plugin CHM:Plugins:Scripts:Notes and resources
The Windows API has been well documented and since many of the calls have been around for over 10 years it is relatively easy to find examples of most of them.
Please do not take from my post that I an unhappy with the work that has gone into the manual. I realize that it has taken many hours of volunteer work and I really appreciate it. It really did assist with me getting the full value of your product. |
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FeyFre
Joined: 07 Aug 2007 Posts: 1893 Location: Vinnitsa, Ukraine
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:06 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | The Windows API has been well documented and since many of the calls have been around for over 10 years it is relatively easy to find examples of most of them. | Say it to those who see that documentation for first time(there are a lot of such people here on forum).
By the way, if WINAPI documented so well, why did Microsoft closed sources of all utilities when it consumed WinInternals corporation? I can say: because those utilities are using non-documented and highly obscured WINAPI features.(Or probably you know where to get those sources? Millions programmer will say personal "Thank" you.) |
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keith
Joined: 05 Dec 2010 Posts: 9
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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FeyFre are you kidding me? I find the MSDN documentation to be some of the best most organized documentation available. Name me any other operating system that has documented their software as well as Microsoft. It should also be pointed out that the source code from 3rd party tools hardly represents documentation. If these millions of programmers of yours cannot figure out the MSDN documents how do you expect them to understand complicated source code.
BTW - I have much of the source code from the Winternals site, which program do you need? |
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FeyFre
Joined: 07 Aug 2007 Posts: 1893 Location: Vinnitsa, Ukraine
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | FeyFre are you kidding me? I find the MSDN documentation to be some of the best most organized documentation available. Name me any other operating system that has documented their software as well as Microsoft. It should also be pointed out that the source code from 3rd party tools hardly represents documentation. If these millions of programmers of yours cannot figure out the MSDN documents how do you expect them to understand complicated source code. | Yes, MSDN was very good documentation. As for now, MSDN become
In *nix systems there are a tons of manpages.
man socket
man printf
man etc
+for open source projects have sources, which is helpful itself.
| Quote: | | BTW - I have much of the source code from the Winternals site, which program do you need? | I am interested only in recent versions, non pre-2006. For example, RAMMAP. Procmon, Procexp(and their embedded drivers)... all utilities in SysinternalsSuit package. |
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keith
Joined: 05 Dec 2010 Posts: 9
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Well all of the new stuff is being written by Microsoft or I should Mark who is now an employee of Microsoft. You are correct that as I far as I know that source code has not been released. |
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infimum
Joined: 02 Mar 2008 Posts: 26
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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| This is a stickied thread. Take off-topic talk somewhere else, guys. |
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Instructor Site Admin
Joined: 06 Jul 2006 Posts: 4650
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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Surveyor
Have you any thoughts about updating User Manual? More than one year passed. I have temprorary (?) removed link from download page. |
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KDJ
Joined: 06 Mar 2010 Posts: 1069 Location: Poland
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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Surveyor
Please also update Plugins Manual. It's a pity, that such a beautiful manual longer than two years is not updated. |
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Surveyor
Joined: 08 Feb 2008 Posts: 145 Location: British Columbia, Canada
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 3:03 pm Post subject: Manual rework |
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Thanks guy, for the interest. I have indeed thought often of reworking the Plugins Manual; I actually started to re-organize "some time ago". Right now, my life (though I am retired!) is actually quite busy, with grandchildren (1 now and 1 on the way), health issues (mine and my daughter's), and just life in general. I have also committed a large block of time to a project for my son (a help file for a commercial Cancer monitoring project).
If ever I can say "I have more time now!" then AkelPad is still on my radar. I use it EVERY DAY for something, and would like to keep up with documentation. But it progresses (at least the plugins) faster than I can find time!
Do not give up hope - one day I will indeed get back to it, I just can't tell you when.
Instructor - I understand why you may want to disconnect the link, since the file doesn't really represent the current state of AkelPad plugins.
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P.S. to Instructor
I used AkelPad yesterday (and again for the next few days) to edit some text extracted from a PDF (scanned - OCR) file. I would have REALLY appreciated some kind of wildcard in the search and replace. I was removing phone numbers, with known stuff before and after and realized that wildcards (for the phone numbers) would have saved time. Any thoughts? |
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Instructor Site Admin
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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Advanced grandfather Link that was commented out is to User Manual. I understand that Plugins Manual it is quite a different amount of work, so it was not mentioned.
P.S.
Latest versions of program supports reqular expressions internally (before that regexp used with SearchReplace.js script). So you can search string like: "123.*890" (it is regexp analog for "123*890"). |
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Surveyor
Joined: 08 Feb 2008 Posts: 145 Location: British Columbia, Canada
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Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 5:08 pm Post subject: No link to Help file |
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New users to AkelPad may come to download page from many different Internet locations - there is now no link to Help file.
Yes, Help file is out of date, but is it then better to provide NO help? It is a shame to think that all my work cannot be found, except through the forums. I hope to update the manual in the future...
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Surveyor
Joined: 08 Feb 2008 Posts: 145 Location: British Columbia, Canada
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:47 am Post subject: User Manual updated |
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To all,
The compiled HTML (.chm) User Manual has been updated to AkelPad v4.7.7. See first post in this thread for link (re-activated).
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VladSh
Joined: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 2510 Location: Êèåâ, Ðóñü
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 10:04 am Post subject: |
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| Your documentation has always done well! Thanks! |
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Instructor Site Admin
Joined: 06 Jul 2006 Posts: 4650
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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Already read! Some notes was sended to an email. |
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KDJ
Joined: 06 Mar 2010 Posts: 1069 Location: Poland
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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Surveyor
Good job! |
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