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keith



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, the sentence I have a problem with is "However, in true Microsoft fashion, information regarding these calls can be obscure and not straightforward." - Plugin CHM:Plugins:Scripts:Notes and resources

The Windows API has been well documented and since many of the calls have been around for over 10 years it is relatively easy to find examples of most of them.

Please do not take from my post that I an unhappy with the work that has gone into the manual. I realize that it has taken many hours of volunteer work and I really appreciate it. It really did assist with me getting the full value of your product.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The Windows API has been well documented and since many of the calls have been around for over 10 years it is relatively easy to find examples of most of them.
Say it to those who see that documentation for first time(there are a lot of such people here on forum).
By the way, if WINAPI documented so well, why did Microsoft closed sources of all utilities when it consumed WinInternals corporation? I can say: because those utilities are using non-documented and highly obscured WINAPI features.(Or probably you know where to get those sources? Millions programmer will say personal "Thank" you.)
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keith



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FeyFre are you kidding me? I find the MSDN documentation to be some of the best most organized documentation available. Name me any other operating system that has documented their software as well as Microsoft. It should also be pointed out that the source code from 3rd party tools hardly represents documentation. If these millions of programmers of yours cannot figure out the MSDN documents how do you expect them to understand complicated source code.

BTW - I have much of the source code from the Winternals site, which program do you need?
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FeyFre



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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FeyFre are you kidding me? I find the MSDN documentation to be some of the best most organized documentation available. Name me any other operating system that has documented their software as well as Microsoft. It should also be pointed out that the source code from 3rd party tools hardly represents documentation. If these millions of programmers of yours cannot figure out the MSDN documents how do you expect them to understand complicated source code.
Yes, MSDN was very good documentation. As for now, MSDN become
In *nix systems there are a tons of manpages.
man socket
man printf
man etc
+for open source projects have sources, which is helpful itself.
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BTW - I have much of the source code from the Winternals site, which program do you need?
I am interested only in recent versions, non pre-2006. For example, RAMMAP. Procmon, Procexp(and their embedded drivers)... all utilities in SysinternalsSuit package.
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keith



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well all of the new stuff is being written by Microsoft or I should Mark who is now an employee of Microsoft. You are correct that as I far as I know that source code has not been released.
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infimum



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a stickied thread. Take off-topic talk somewhere else, guys.
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Instructor
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surveyor
Have you any thoughts about updating User Manual? More than one year passed. I have temprorary (?) removed link from download page.
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KDJ



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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surveyor
Please also update Plugins Manual. It's a pity, that such a beautiful manual longer than two years is not updated.
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Surveyor



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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 3:03 pm    Post subject: Manual rework Reply with quote

Thanks guy, for the interest. I have indeed thought often of reworking the Plugins Manual; I actually started to re-organize "some time ago". Right now, my life (though I am retired!) is actually quite busy, with grandchildren (1 now and 1 on the way), health issues (mine and my daughter's), and just life in general. I have also committed a large block of time to a project for my son (a help file for a commercial Cancer monitoring project).

If ever I can say "I have more time now!" then AkelPad is still on my radar. I use it EVERY DAY for something, and would like to keep up with documentation. But it progresses (at least the plugins) faster than I can find time!

Do not give up hope - one day I will indeed get back to it, I just can't tell you when.

Instructor - I understand why you may want to disconnect the link, since the file doesn't really represent the current state of AkelPad plugins.

- Surveyor

P.S. to Instructor
I used AkelPad yesterday (and again for the next few days) to edit some text extracted from a PDF (scanned - OCR) file. I would have REALLY appreciated some kind of wildcard in the search and replace. I was removing phone numbers, with known stuff before and after and realized that wildcards (for the phone numbers) would have saved time. Any thoughts?
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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surveyor
Advanced grandfather Smile Link that was commented out is to User Manual. I understand that Plugins Manual it is quite a different amount of work, so it was not mentioned.

P.S.
Latest versions of program supports reqular expressions internally (before that regexp used with SearchReplace.js script). So you can search string like: "123.*890" (it is regexp analog for "123*890").
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Surveyor



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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 5:08 pm    Post subject: No link to Help file Reply with quote

New users to AkelPad may come to download page from many different Internet locations - there is now no link to Help file.

Yes, Help file is out of date, but is it then better to provide NO help? It is a shame to think that all my work cannot be found, except through the forums. I hope to update the manual in the future...

- Surveyor
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:47 am    Post subject: User Manual updated Reply with quote

To all,

The compiled HTML (.chm) User Manual has been updated to AkelPad v4.7.7. See first post in this thread for link (re-activated).

- Surveyor
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VladSh



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your documentation has always done well! Thanks!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Already read! Smile Some notes was sended to an email.
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KDJ



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surveyor
Good job!
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